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TheTacDaddy
11-16-2012, 05:48 AM
At a MINIMUM, you should have this level of protection.....Agreed?

http://youtu.be/a_yrWuiZdH4

GlassWolf
11-16-2012, 08:32 AM
Well yeah, I believe so, but sadly not everyone does, and a can of good OC runs about $16-25 which some people just can't justify spending for something they never plan to use.
Personally, I have Saber Red OC, a 21" and 26" expanding baton, a multitude of knives, and handguns to choose from, depending on where I'm going, and what I plan to wear.

norahc
11-16-2012, 09:12 AM
Agreed. I carry my keys on an Asp Defender so I always have it with me.

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DFX2KX
11-16-2012, 11:55 AM
Never carried Mace/Pepper Spray, myself... I would, but it's expensive! Could always mix your own (they call it PEPPER spray for a reason). Though, as far as spray goes, I used to have a can of WD-40 with me when I was riding my bike everywhere... I wouldn't have wanted to get sprayed with that, for sure. Never had to resort to that, or anything else, while out and about, fortunately.

GlassWolf
11-16-2012, 01:44 PM
Never carried Mace/Pepper Spray, myself... I would, but it's expensive! Could always mix your own (they call it PEPPER spray for a reason). Though, as far as spray goes, I used to have a can of WD-40 with me when I was riding my bike everywhere... I wouldn't have wanted to get sprayed with that, for sure. Never had to resort to that, or anything else, while out and about, fortunately.

This is what I'm talking about. People don't like paying for CS or OC. I get a good price on it from Lawmens, but in general it really is a bit pricey. I use it at work a LOT. We (our team) probably goes through a couple cans (large cans) a night of the Saber Red OC, breaking up fights at night clubs in the parking lots. It's the best way to chill those people out on the quicks. An ASP, or Taser would require us to cuff the people, and call in the Police to hauil them off. The OC, they can just wash it out, and go home.

Now the downside to OC: It doesn't work on everyone. We had one guy recently, real hulk of a guy, take two full streams to the face, and shake it off and laugh at us for spraying him. He backed down a lot more quickly when the ASP snapped out. Thankfully, didn't even have to use it. Just the presentation did the trick.

I bought some OC for my mother to carry in her purse since she doesn't carry, or have a CWP, but personally, I only use the OC at work, not for personal carry. I prefer the ASP tucked into my belt under the front of my shirt, or in a coat pocket when it's cold, along with the sidearm. The thing about a baton though, is that I strongly advise against carrying one unless you have training in it's use. Otherwise, you're facing a strong chance of having it taken from you by an adversary, and as James Yeager once said, having it shoved up your own *ahem* unpleasant place by that aggressor.

No matter what you choose to carry, I do advise seeking at least some rudimentary training in it's use prior to deciding to carry it for self-defense.

GlassWolf
11-16-2012, 01:46 PM
sorry, accidental double-post.

TheTacDaddy
11-17-2012, 07:15 AM
Great discussion! Thanks for the info, I'm still on a learning curve about the OC etc....

funkymonkey1111
11-17-2012, 09:47 PM
that kimber system looks great. anyone use Fox pepper spray?

TheTacDaddy
11-19-2012, 06:43 AM
i do not, but my wife carries the kimber in her purse

GlassWolf
11-19-2012, 07:59 AM
If you've never used a chemical spray deterrent before, and choose not to read the directions, please be aware that when you do deploy the spray, it typically comes out in a stream or a spray cone dispersal. Most of the ones I have used are in a stream. Be sure of your target and what lies beyond your target (sound familiar?) because the spray is a liquid, and as such, it does spread out and spatter as it's used. It will hit the person in front of the stream, and anyone within a certain radius. When we use OC to break up fights or back off an aggressor at work (armed security at night clubs, concerts, and the like) we know we're not just going to hit the person we aim the can at, but the people surrounding him or her as well. It's just how the devicve works. Also be prepared to get a bit of it yourself. Never shoot a stream into a headwind or breeze. It WILL blow back on you. If you are facing into the wind, and have to use it anyway to fend off an attack, really let loose with the stuff. Just get as close as you can with it, and empty the can. You may get some, too, but you'll be sure that the attacker gets a lot more of it than you do. It may make it a little hard to see or breathe, but you can still run away.

Just a few random thoughts on using CS and OC chemical deterrents.

TheTacDaddy
11-30-2012, 06:12 AM
again, great input. Most people never think about the details , like wind, etc!

otasan56
02-16-2015, 05:06 AM
I carry a little bottle of OC spray.

Helenawe
11-14-2020, 04:28 AM
I carry a little bottle of OC spray.

It is easily accessible and easy to spray. A friend and I sprayed one burst outside to make sure the sprayer was functional, and people down the sidewalk started coughing..it's apparently powerful to affect people approximately 20 feet away if there is wind. So far, I have (thankfully) not needed to use it for defense, but I have no doubt that it would help repel an attacker.